{"id":4982,"date":"2021-07-07T06:00:00","date_gmt":"2021-07-07T13:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/xichuanpoetry.com\/?p=4982"},"modified":"2021-07-06T21:07:11","modified_gmt":"2021-07-07T04:07:11","slug":"force-of-forging-words-a-translation-conversation","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/xichuanpoetry.com\/?p=4982","title":{"rendered":"Force of Forging Words: A Translation Conversation"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\">An online launch for <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/yalebooks.yale.edu\/book\/9780300227390\/words-grain\" target=\"_blank\"><em>Words as Grain: New and Selected Poems <\/em>by Duo Duo<\/a> \u591a\u591a, translated by Lucas Klein, from The Margellos World Republic of Letters by Yale University Press.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\">Lucas Klein in discussion with Nick Admussen, Chris Song, and Jami Proctor Xu, moderated by Tammy Lai-Ming Ho<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large is-resized\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/events\/342718823866030\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img data-attachment-id=\"5018\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/xichuanpoetry.com\/?attachment_id=5018\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/xichuanpoetry.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/The-Force-of-Forging-Words_-A-Translation-Conversation-1.png?fit=1920%2C1080&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1920,1080\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"The-Force-of-Forging-Words_-A-Translation-Conversation-1\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/xichuanpoetry.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/The-Force-of-Forging-Words_-A-Translation-Conversation-1.png?fit=300%2C169&amp;ssl=1\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/xichuanpoetry.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/The-Force-of-Forging-Words_-A-Translation-Conversation-1.png?fit=584%2C329&amp;ssl=1\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/xichuanpoetry.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/The-Force-of-Forging-Words_-A-Translation-Conversation-1.png?resize=573%2C322&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-5018\" width=\"573\" height=\"322\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/xichuanpoetry.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/The-Force-of-Forging-Words_-A-Translation-Conversation-1.png?resize=1024%2C576&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/xichuanpoetry.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/The-Force-of-Forging-Words_-A-Translation-Conversation-1.png?resize=300%2C169&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/xichuanpoetry.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/The-Force-of-Forging-Words_-A-Translation-Conversation-1.png?resize=768%2C432&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/xichuanpoetry.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/The-Force-of-Forging-Words_-A-Translation-Conversation-1.png?resize=1536%2C864&amp;ssl=1 1536w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/xichuanpoetry.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/The-Force-of-Forging-Words_-A-Translation-Conversation-1.png?resize=500%2C281&amp;ssl=1 500w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/xichuanpoetry.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/The-Force-of-Forging-Words_-A-Translation-Conversation-1.png?w=1920&amp;ssl=1 1920w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/xichuanpoetry.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/The-Force-of-Forging-Words_-A-Translation-Conversation-1.png?w=1168&amp;ssl=1 1168w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/xichuanpoetry.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/The-Force-of-Forging-Words_-A-Translation-Conversation-1.png?w=1752&amp;ssl=1 1752w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 573px) 100vw, 573px\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>In &#8220;The Force of Forging Words,&#8221; a poem in <em>Words as Grain: New and Selected Poems<\/em> by premier Chinese poet Duo Duo \u591a\u591a (Yale University Press, The Cecile and Theodore Margellos World Republic of Letters series), translated by Lucas Klein, Duo Duo writes: &#8220;outside force, continuing on \/ from enough, is insufficient hallucination \/\/ &#8230; \/\/ this is rationale\u2019s wasteland \/ but the ethics of poetry.&#8221;<br><br>What are the ethics of poetry? Is poetry the wasteland of the rationale, or of the rational? Is translation a kind of hallucination, and is it sufficient? What care needs to be taken to translate such poetry? Our speakers will discuss these questions with the translator to celebrate the publication of <em>Words as Grain<\/em>.<br>\u2581\u2581\u2581\u2581<br><br>INFORMATION<br><br>Zoom: <br>Meeting ID: 988 5804 6038<br>Date: Friday\/Saturday 9\/10 July 2021<br>Time:<br>\u259a Arizona\u2014Friday 9 July 2021; 6 pm<br>\u259a HK\u2014Saturday 10 July 2021; 9 am<br>Global Clock: <br>Facebook Event Page: <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>An online launch for Words as Grain: New and Selected Poems by Duo Duo \u591a\u591a, translated by Lucas Klein, from The Margellos World Republic of Letters by Yale University Press. Lucas Klein in discussion with Nick Admussen, Chris Song, and &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/xichuanpoetry.com\/?p=4982\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_is_tweetstorm":false,"jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","enabled":false}}},"categories":[2256,9],"tags":[1923,714,515,405,462,664,1025,176],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p8srwF-1im","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":4816,"url":"https:\/\/xichuanpoetry.com\/?p=4816","url_meta":{"origin":4982,"position":0},"title":"Zoom Event\u2014Translators Speak: Translating Chinese Poetry","author":"Lucas Klein","date":"June 11, 2020","format":false,"excerpt":"Translators Speak: Translating Chinese Poetry ZOOM: https:\/\/bit.ly\/2YHxitE (Meeting ID: 959 2591 8289)Saturday June 13, 11:00 a.m. Hong Kong time (click here to find the date & time for you) Congratulations to Zephyr Press! 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