{"id":4520,"date":"2019-04-05T20:30:34","date_gmt":"2019-04-05T12:30:34","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/xichuanpoetry.com\/?p=4520"},"modified":"2019-04-04T09:37:55","modified_gmt":"2019-04-04T01:37:55","slug":"shan-on-yu-yoyo-and-translation","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/xichuanpoetry.com\/?p=4520","title":{"rendered":"Shan on Yu Yoyo and Translation"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter\"><img data-attachment-id=\"4525\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/xichuanpoetry.com\/?attachment_id=4525\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/xichuanpoetry.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/final-yu-yoyo.png?fit=540%2C288&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"540,288\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"final-yu-yoyo\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/xichuanpoetry.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/final-yu-yoyo.png?fit=300%2C160&amp;ssl=1\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/xichuanpoetry.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/final-yu-yoyo.png?fit=540%2C288&amp;ssl=1\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"540\" height=\"288\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/xichuanpoetry.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/final-yu-yoyo.png?resize=540%2C288&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-4525\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/xichuanpoetry.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/final-yu-yoyo.png?w=540&amp;ssl=1 540w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/xichuanpoetry.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/final-yu-yoyo.png?resize=300%2C160&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/xichuanpoetry.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/final-yu-yoyo.png?resize=500%2C267&amp;ssl=1 500w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 540px) 100vw, 540px\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\" \/><figcaption><a href=\"https:\/\/www.asymptotejournal.com\/blog\/2019\/03\/20\/on-yu-yoyo-language-and-the-unsayable\/?fbclid=IwAR0qC1jMm7MDuBA4t5l4-rkyZJPWcKLDl9PxSVpg17C_TeY9MvWSBNMYebA\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"Yu Yoyo, whose poetry is discussed by Xiao Yue Shan on the Asymptote blog. (opens in a new tab)\">Yu Yoyo, whose poetry is discussed by Xiao Yue Shan on the <\/a><em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.asymptotejournal.com\/blog\/2019\/03\/20\/on-yu-yoyo-language-and-the-unsayable\/?fbclid=IwAR0qC1jMm7MDuBA4t5l4-rkyZJPWcKLDl9PxSVpg17C_TeY9MvWSBNMYebA\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"Yu Yoyo, whose poetry is discussed by Xiao Yue Shan on the Asymptote blog. (opens in a new tab)\">Asymptote<\/a><\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.asymptotejournal.com\/blog\/2019\/03\/20\/on-yu-yoyo-language-and-the-unsayable\/?fbclid=IwAR0qC1jMm7MDuBA4t5l4-rkyZJPWcKLDl9PxSVpg17C_TeY9MvWSBNMYebA\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"Yu Yoyo, whose poetry is discussed by Xiao Yue Shan on the Asymptote blog. (opens in a new tab)\"> blog.<\/a><\/figcaption><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>The <em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.asymptotejournal.com\/blog\/2019\/03\/20\/on-yu-yoyo-language-and-the-unsayable\/?fbclid=IwAR0qC1jMm7MDuBA4t5l4-rkyZJPWcKLDl9PxSVpg17C_TeY9MvWSBNMYebA\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"Asymptote blog  (opens in a new tab)\">Asymptote <\/a><\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.asymptotejournal.com\/blog\/2019\/03\/20\/on-yu-yoyo-language-and-the-unsayable\/?fbclid=IwAR0qC1jMm7MDuBA4t5l4-rkyZJPWcKLDl9PxSVpg17C_TeY9MvWSBNMYebA\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"Asymptote blog  (opens in a new tab)\">blog <\/a>has posted Xiao Yue Shan&#8217;s take on Yu Yoyo \u4f59\u5e7c\u5e7c, as translated by Henry Zhang. Shan writes:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote\"><p>Floating signifiers are especially insecure in translation, in which one often has to choose between music and intention, double meanings or single ones, visual effect or faithful retellings. They present a particular dilemma because a floating signifier in one language may not be one in the other. The Chinese language, painting with a full palette of the pictorial, the symbolic, the historical, and the literal, has a tangibility that does not lapse into the vague as easily as English does. Ernest Fenollosa, in his (flawed but admirable) studies, characterized Chinese characters as a medium for poetry. It is not that Chinese is inherently more possessive of the elusive idea of poetics, but rather that the facets of Chinese language that enchanted Fenollosa with their invocation of poetry are also what result in headaches for translators. We do not count our losses in translation. Instead, we admire the growth a poem may undergo as it leaves its writer\u2019s hand and wanders onto the page, how it may cross oceans and national borders, how it lives, how it is alive, the  way we know language to be.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>Shan notes that in Henry Zhang\u2019s English version of Yu&#8217;s poem &#8220;Letter of Regret,&#8221; the word &#8220;&#8216;love&#8217; is applied much less liberally, turning up only four times&#8221; to Yu&#8217;s six for <em>aiqing <\/em>\u7231\u60c5. &#8220;There is no retracing the tangled process of translation,&#8221; she says, &#8220;but one may guess that it has something to do with how &#8216;love&#8217; weighs lighter in the Chinese language, which has ceded less value to the word in its public consciousness.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I don&#8217;t know about that. But looking at the first stanza of the poem in Chinese and English, I wonder if Zhang was working with another version.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote\"><p><strong><em>\u5fcf\u6094\u4e66<\/em><\/strong><\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote\"><p><em>\u6211\u5199\u4e86\u90a3\u4e48\u591a\u7231\u60c5<br> \u5374\u4ece\u6765\u6ca1\u6709<br> \u76f8\u4fe1\u8fc7<br> \u7231\u60c5\u5230\u4e86\u6700\u540e<br> \u90fd\u8ba9\u6211\u53d8\u6210<br> \u8001\u6b7b\u4e0d\u76f8\u5f80\u6765<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote\"><p><strong> Letter of Regret<\/strong><\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote\"><p>I wrote so much love<br>but never<br>believed<br>love would make me<br>two cities, each ignoring the other<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>Click <a href=\"https:\/\/www.asymptotejournal.com\/blog\/2019\/03\/20\/on-yu-yoyo-language-and-the-unsayable\/?fbclid=IwAR0qC1jMm7MDuBA4t5l4-rkyZJPWcKLDl9PxSVpg17C_TeY9MvWSBNMYebA\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"here  (opens in a new tab)\">here <\/a>to read the piece in full.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Asymptote blog has posted Xiao Yue Shan&#8217;s take on Yu Yoyo \u4f59\u5e7c\u5e7c, as translated by Henry Zhang. Shan writes: Floating signifiers are especially insecure in translation, in which one often has to choose between music and intention, double meanings &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/xichuanpoetry.com\/?p=4520\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_is_tweetstorm":false,"jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","enabled":false}}},"categories":[3],"tags":[828,2100,2101,2083],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p8srwF-1aU","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":4438,"url":"https:\/\/xichuanpoetry.com\/?p=4438","url_meta":{"origin":4520,"position":0},"title":"Haysom on translating Yu Yoyo","author":"Lucas Klein","date":"January 21, 2019","format":false,"excerpt":"Dave Haysom talks about his upcoming collaboration translating Chinese poet Yu Yoyo \u4f59\u5e7c\u5e7c with A K Blakemore. https:\/\/twitter.com\/i\/status\/1083440761486655488","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Videos&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Videos","link":"https:\/\/xichuanpoetry.com\/?cat=11"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":3798,"url":"https:\/\/xichuanpoetry.com\/?p=3798","url_meta":{"origin":4520,"position":1},"title":"Zero Distance Anthology of New Chinese Poetry","author":"Lucas Klein","date":"June 9, 2017","format":false,"excerpt":"Announcing Zero Distance | New Poetry from China, edited and translated By Liang Yujing--newly published by Tinfish Press. \"Another anthology?\" you're probably thinking--\"Just what we need! 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