{"id":4008,"date":"2018-03-21T09:00:38","date_gmt":"2018-03-21T01:00:38","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/xichuanpoetry.com\/?p=4008"},"modified":"2018-03-08T22:55:25","modified_gmt":"2018-03-08T14:55:25","slug":"complete-review-on-weinbergers-19-ways-of-looking-at-wang-wei","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/xichuanpoetry.com\/?p=4008","title":{"rendered":"Complete Review on Weinberger&#8217;s 19 Ways of Looking at Wang Wei"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I missed this when it was published.<\/p>\n<p><b>M.A. Orthofer at the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.complete-review.com\/reviews\/weinbge\/19_ways.htm\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><em>Complete Review <\/em><\/a>has reviewed the re-release of Eliot Weinberger&#8217;s <em>19 Ways of Looking at Wang Wei<\/em>. Here&#8217;s an excerpt:<br \/>\n<\/b><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>These more than two-dozen variations on the text &#8212; and Weinberger&#8217;s brief observations of what they get particularly wrong (and also what they seem to get right) &#8212; also serve, in sum, as an excellent gloss on the poem. Of course, part of the exercise is to demonstrate the obvious, that there can be no &#8216;perfect&#8217; 1:1 mapping of the poem &#8212; a useful lesson for those who all too readily rely on single translations of their favorite foreign poems and poets &#8230; &#8212; but beyond that the different perspectives &#8212; which is how the translation-attempts can also be seen &#8211;, from the most literal attempts to Kenneth Rexroth&#8217;s (&#8220;perhaps more &#8216;imitation&#8217; than translation&#8221;), also reveal a great deal more about the original to those for whom the Chinese itself remains inaccessible.<br \/>\nHelpfully, Weinberger does not shy away from judging (harshly, where need be) &#8212; while giving his reasons for what went right (or oh so wrong) &#8212; a reminder, too, of how the often unknowing reader is at the mercy of what is available at the local bookstore or library, or what happens to fall into their hands.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>And<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The addition of &#8216;more ways&#8217; to the original collection is also of interest, as it is not just more of the same: as Weinberger notes: &#8220;most or all of the English-language translators were aware of the book&#8221;, and presumably were influenced in their own takes at least in part by that, writing (or rather translating) in response to Weinberger as well.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Follow the link for the review in full.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I missed this when it was published. M.A. Orthofer at the Complete Review has reviewed the re-release of Eliot Weinberger&#8217;s 19 Ways of Looking at Wang Wei. Here&#8217;s an excerpt: These more than two-dozen variations on the text &#8212; and &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/xichuanpoetry.com\/?p=4008\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_is_tweetstorm":false,"jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","enabled":false}}},"categories":[3],"tags":[47,30,1974,344],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p8srwF-12E","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":4503,"url":"https:\/\/xichuanpoetry.com\/?p=4503","url_meta":{"origin":4008,"position":0},"title":"Chinese Translation of 19 Ways of Looking at Wang Wei","author":"Lucas Klein","date":"March 25, 2019","format":false,"excerpt":"Nineteen Ways of Looking at Wang Wei in Chinese Eliot Weinberger's classic study of \"how a Chinese poem is translated,\" Nineteen Ways of Looking at Wang Wei, has just been published in Chinese translation. 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