{"id":1176,"date":"2012-09-07T11:01:33","date_gmt":"2012-09-07T03:01:33","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/xichuanpoetry.com\/?p=1176"},"modified":"2012-09-07T11:01:33","modified_gmt":"2012-09-07T03:01:33","slug":"mark-burnhope-reviews-jade-ladder","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/xichuanpoetry.com\/?p=1176","title":{"rendered":"Mark Burnhope Reviews Jade Ladder"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/magmapoetry.com\/blog-review-13-mark-burnhope-reviews-jade-ladder-contemporary-chinese-poetry-edited-by-w-n-herbert-yang-lian-with-brian-holton-qin-xiaoyu\/\" target=\"_blank\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-4991 alignleft\" title=\"jade-ladder\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/magmapoetry.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/08\/jade-ladder1-192x300.jpg?resize=192%2C300\" alt=\"\" width=\"192\" height=\"300\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\" \/><\/a>At <a href=\"http:\/\/magmapoetry.com\/blog-review-13-mark-burnhope-reviews-jade-ladder-contemporary-chinese-poetry-edited-by-w-n-herbert-yang-lian-with-brian-holton-qin-xiaoyu\/\" target=\"_blank\">Magma Poetry <\/a>Mark Burnhope has posted his review of <em>Jade Ladder<\/em>, the recent anthology of contemporary Chinese poetry published in the UK. Burnhope is new to Chinese poetry, and he doesn&#8217;t know whether family names come first or last in Chinese, but he raises some nice questions about translation in his enthusiastic take on Chinese poetry today. Here&#8217;s how it begins:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>In his essay concluding <em>Jade Ladder<\/em>, Brian Holton discusses the trials, tribulations, negotiations and compromises involved in translating Chinese poetry into English. Some of Yang Lian and Qin Xiaoyu\u2019s first choices were shelved, he writes, \u201cbecause the joke just wasn\u2019t funny in English\u201d, poems \u201cwere speaking only to Chinese readers\u2019, or they ultimately \u201cfell flat in translation\u201d. The translators generally avoided footnotes unless they appeared in original poems, or unless they would \u201ctransform a poem that otherwise would be closed to the reader into something more accessible and enjoyable\u201d.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>At Magma Poetry Mark Burnhope has posted his review of Jade Ladder, the recent anthology of contemporary Chinese poetry published in the UK. Burnhope is new to Chinese poetry, and he doesn&#8217;t know whether family names come first or last &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/xichuanpoetry.com\/?p=1176\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_is_tweetstorm":false,"jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","enabled":false}}},"categories":[13,342,3,16],"tags":[174,706,165,173,21],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p8srwF-iY","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":2525,"url":"https:\/\/xichuanpoetry.com\/?p=2525","url_meta":{"origin":1176,"position":0},"title":"MCLC Review of Jade Ladder","author":"Lucas Klein","date":"April 2, 2014","format":false,"excerpt":"Modern Chinese Literature & Culture has published Meng Liansu\u2019s review of Jade Ladder: Contemporary Chinese Poetry, edited by Yang Lian \u6768\u70bc and W. 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